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. and they're in fact at this moment trying to make their own deal with people like john mccain for next to nothing from our point of view. you wouldn't see any of those four changes that we're pushing for. and i think he is reluctant unfortunately, to go ahead with the overwhelming majority of democrats that he has. he's got 51 democrats -- >> already? >> -- who will support senate resolution 4. and we need the american people to call in to senator reid and say,let's take a stand. let's bring democracy to the u.s. senate." >> the polls suggest that the majority of americans really want filibuster reform and want the talking filibuster back. >> right, overwhelming majority, you know, two thirds at least and in fact on the other side, like 7%, 8%, 9% say "oh, yeah, they should be able to phone in from their fundraiser," which is what they do, and say, "i object." and then you're in unanimous consent and now to get out of unanimous consent you need 60 votes to move forward. very few americans believe that's what they elected a senator to do. >> so a senator could be sitting somewhere off c
information. >> ifill: republican john mccain pressed clinton on why u.s. consular staff evacuated from libya to germany weren't questioned sooner. >> i categorically reject your answer to senator johnson about, well, we didn't ask these survivors, who were flown to ramstein the next day, that they-- that this was not a spontaneous demonstration. to say that it's because an investigation was going on-- the american people deserve to know answers, and they certainly don't deserve false answers. so here we are, four months later, and we still don't have the basic information. now, if you want to go out and tell the american people what happened, you should at least have interviewed the people who were there instead of saying, no, we couldn't talk to them because an f.b.i. investigation was going on. >> well, senator, i understand your very strong feelings. you knew chris. you were a friend of chris. you were one of the staunchest supporters of the efforts to dislodge qaddafi and try to give the libyan people a chance. and we just have a disagreement. we have a disagreement about what did happen
, september 11. and then finally, senator mccain stressed why wasn't there some u.s. military power available to come to the rescue of the people who were trapped in the embassy annex so that people wouldn't have ended up dying on the roof essentially unable to protect themselves against the mortar fire they were taking. and you could see, he's still angry about it. >> rose: the other thing he considered unacceptable was her response with senator johnson when she said, "what difference does it make?" >> i thought that was an especially poignant response from secretary clinton. and it reflected an uncertainty to this day, i'm told among intelligence officers who have reviewed the evidence they have of what happened that night, believing it or not, they still don't know precisely how that attack came to happen. they know there were terrorists who were associated with al qaeda, were part of the group. they know there were others who kind of wandered into the scene. and when secretary clinton said, "what difference does it make exactly how it came together, let's find it and punish them." she was
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